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BrunswickT
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posted 04-14-2009 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BrunswickT   Click Here to Email BrunswickT     Edit/Delete Message
Today, the DOJ announced that in the Federal Court in the Northern District of Florida, five men were sentenced to life imprisonment as members of an international child pornography ring.
This group, with many others specialized in the videos depicting prepubescent children, including toddlers engaged in various sexual and sadistic acts.
Understanding what we are up against, this group was described as operating a complex system of pseudonyms, screening tests for new members and sophisticated encryption methods to avoid detection.
This group traded more than 400,000 images and 1,000 videos. A highly organized, highly-sophisticated international criminal enterprise.
This group operated for more than two years.
Now we should applaud law enforcement and the justice system for holding these criminals accountable for these evil deeds.

Now the other shoe drops. One of the criminals is a registered sex offender since 2003.
He is a registered sex offender in the state of Florida. He is presently listed as residing at the Santa Rosa County Jail, soon to be transferred to a federal prison.

Name: Neville McGarity
DOB: 08/24/1967
POB: Bandera, TX???
Male
Cau.
Offense: Aggravated Sexual Assault of a Child
Date of Offense: 03/27/2003
Jurisdiction: Medina, TX
Date of transfer from TX to FL unk.

My question is, was this registered SO in therapy, or a containment program? If so, has he been polygraphed in the last two years?

I hope no feathers have been ruffled, but comments from forum members (perhaps from Florida) are welcomed.

How can the present system be improved?


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LarryG
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posted 05-04-2009 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LarryG   Click Here to Email LarryG     Edit/Delete Message
I am not a member of the AAPP, but it is my understanding that the AAPP provides QC services to it's members. I am a member of the APA. Some time back, the APA attempted to put together a QC service for it's members. Unfortunately, it fell through the cracks when APA could not get enough volunteers to run the program. I have the same concern regarding PCSOT. This program is far too important to allow mistakes. Everyone would benefit from a QC program, and the PCSOT program would definitely benefit. We may never totally eliminate errors, but we should be doing all we can to minimize these mistakes.

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stat
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posted 05-05-2009 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stat   Click Here to Email stat     Edit/Delete Message
What a nightmare. Ideally, this p.o.s. escaped treatment or supervision in some form---under the radar. If not, than I dare say that those team members will themselves need therapy. Just tragic for everybody, especially the dang kids. Barry (if you're around), aside from some fire and brimstone passage, how the F does God reconcile---no wait---- how could Christ forgive such sober, sane, planned evil. Seriously. How about some words of clarity. At least a terrorist (most) have core political convictions---albeit distorted and futile---but mass molestations?

I tested a guy who admitted that he was involved years ago in a Florida porn ring that triangled Canada and L.A. He was a camera man and a sometimes "fetcher" (a person who lures street kids into the "studio" with candy and toys.)He stated that the operations ceased in the early nineties. He admitted far worse to a previous examiner also. He died 2 yrs ago. A child killing roach, with 7 tons worth of sobs and apologies.

sigh,
I haven't ranted in while.


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stat
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posted 05-05-2009 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stat   Click Here to Email stat     Edit/Delete Message
"how can the present system be improved?"

By taking the next step----the step that DACA MUST take----the step OUT of the 20th century. I suspect they are trying. Policy of PCSOT aside (boy, that's a big set aside)--we need better technology, and in my opinion a complete overhaul of just what data we gather, and how we use it. Where are the big ideas? Star Trek writers may be of use on this one.

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ebvan
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posted 05-06-2009 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ebvan   Click Here to Email ebvan     Edit/Delete Message
I think the original question is interesting and I would like to know the answer generally or specifically between Texas and Florida. Does a Sexual Offender who has been placed in a containment program have to find a containment program to accept him if he transfers his registration from one state to another? I am concerned that if it doesn't, it provides a "Legal" way for SO to escape containment by simply getting permission to move out of state.

Stat I think the best course of action doesn't necessarily lie in better data collection tools or collecting different data but in improving our understanding and interpretation of the data we collect.
Just one man's opinion

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rnelson
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posted 05-06-2009 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rnelson   Click Here to Email rnelson     Edit/Delete Message
I like stat's enthusiasm for new ideas, but I agree with Ebvan.

Just throwing everything away and starting over isn't the answer.

There is probably a lot about our present methods that we could improve on, and that will require that we at times challenge our past assumptions. This is not the same as abandoning everything for some new-fangled proprietary gizmo. The point of challenging our assumptions is to better understand our own work and better defend it against attack or criticism.

Some of our assumptions about QC need to be carefully examined.

Especially those pertaining to exposure and liability, and the effect these forces may have on pragmatic decisions.

PCSOT is a mostly a private practice arena. In an agency, it is the agency that holds the liability. The agency also holds the training requirements, certification, supervision, continuing education, and quality assurance. It is essentially there game and they call the shots. It reduces there exposure and liability to engage in QC, and they have both funding and an administrative mandate to engage in QC activities.

In private practice, liability rests with the practitioner. Responsiblity for CE belongs to the practitioner, profession, and trainer. Liablity for QC rests with the reviewer, who joins the examiner in attesting to the veracity of the examinee - or shifts all liability back to the examiner if the review does not support the exam.

The point of a QC review is to decrease exposure and liability.

Agency type QC programs do that for the agency.

Our challenge will be to create a model for QC that does what we want ===> reduces exposure and liability for both the examiner and and the profession.

Agency type QC approaches will not accomplish that.

The first task may be to find a conceptual model or example of how QC works in private practice professions.

.02

r

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